DrCashFlow

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Message Posted: May 21, 2012 3:27:11 AM
This trend will spread to many countries
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Amplion

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 3:10:04 PM
BETTER TO HAVE GOLD THAN PAPER !!!!!
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Metrolizer

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 8:28:21 AM
Sanctions certainly hurt those who apply them.
Failure of these sanctions to prevent more drastic measures may hurt Iran even more.
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ExplorerWA

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 10:58:30 PM
I don't think the sanctions are hurting Iran.
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 5:42:13 PM
The Reuters article doesn't say what Iran used to buy the Turkish gold. (too lazy to ask or omitted on purpose)?
From ZeroHedge dot com - May 08, '12: While Turkey has assured the U.S. government it will cut purchases of oil from Iran by 20% this year, its total trade with the Islamic Republic increased 47% to $4.8 billion in the first quarter from a year earlier.
The increase in trade with Iran comes as sanctions make it harder for trading partners such as Turkey, India and China to pay in dollars and euros.
While Turkey has agreed to cut oil imports from Iran, its officials have said they aren’t bound to abide by broader sanctions imposed by the U.S. and European Union, which are stricter than those from the United Nations.
The economic cost of sanctions is “borne by Turkey,” not just by Iran, Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan recently said. [So true. And China, India, Japan and other countries.]
Iran supplies about 40% of Turkey’s oil, making it the largest single source for the fuel....
[Edited by: dhdiesel at 5/19/2012 6:42:45 PM EST]
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StArrow68

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 5:10:24 PM
So after taking, what in return, do you do with Iranian currency? Why would anyone be willing to give up gold to buyers in Iran unless there is a stash of solid currency available from private buyers?
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HorizonChaser

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 4:19:59 PM
Why don't we buy Turkish gold so that they don't want to do b'ness w/Iran?
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aquarinut

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 3:37:17 PM
Sanctions only work if they are unanimous and only last for a short period, otherwise they can drag out for years and the end result is mediocre at best.
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TripleHs

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 3:32:20 PM
no surprise
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TableTalk

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 3:24:29 PM
Love that Gold. The universal money.
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playtimeCLE

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 3:19:58 PM
Turkey needs oil just like the rest of us and it seems they don't care to play along with the sanctions.
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1tallford

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 3:12:02 PM
Is there a gas relationship here?
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doggod

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 1:31:46 PM
How ironic if Iran ends up at the top of the heap of gold ownership when the world's fiat currencies finally tank on account of their inherent worthlessness.
And all on account of the sanctions. With enemies like us, I don't think Iran needs any friends.
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lebrc64

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 1:23:48 PM
snactions could do some good things for prices and for peace on this chaotic planet.
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 1:01:54 PM
Goatroper, hostilities/sanctions with Iran have a direct influence on global oil prices as does the value of the USD as the global reserve curency... just sayin'
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Goatroper

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 12:56:22 PM
Not a direct connection to gas prices....maybe a stretch
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BUSMAN1105

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 12:44:53 PM
STOP DOING THAT TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 12:36:04 PM
If China and Russia continue to sell arms to Iran, using instead gold, to bypass the U.S. SWIFT system, would the U.S. start an economic war with them using the SWIFT system as well?
Will other Asian and Middle Eastern nations see gold as money free of Western economic interference?
The implications of using the SWIFT system as a tool of economic war are huge if the geniuses in D.C. aren't careful.
[Edited by: dhdiesel at 5/19/2012 1:40:29 PM EST]
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Barfood

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 12:21:57 PM
Ah bartering is alive & well.
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BuckyTJones

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 12:12:20 PM
Neighbors just being neighbors.
Please look the other way while we play both sides of the street, as we always have.
If I am not mistaken the French and Germans broke sanctions when dealing with Saddam Hussein.
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portlandcat

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 11:59:38 AM
ok
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dave27johnson

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 11:57:06 AM
Another sign that sanctions are hurting Iran.
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 11:53:44 AM
How many countries will continue trade with Iran, using their own currencies or gold to bypass the U.S. SWIFT system?
How will this begin to affect the U.S. dollar as the global reserve curency?
Will the use of the SWIFT system as a nuclear economic weapon backfire on an already unstable, debt-ridden U.S. dollar?
[Edited by: dhdiesel at 5/19/2012 12:56:36 PM EST]
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humblepie

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 11:53:36 AM
sanctions have NEVER worked, and this is one reason why
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