honda0105

Champion Author
Tallahassee
Posts:18,818 Points:1,636,245 Joined:Nov 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 5:01:00 AM
TransCanada is still trying to find the easiest route to get their product to market so the highest profits can be gained. Wait for the first spill on US soil. TransCanada won't pay for cleanup, but that's okay from the way most people here seem to see it.
|
drpepperTX

Champion Author
Texas
Posts:9,159 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 3, 2012 10:32:41 PM
Good to see this article get a lot of readers.
Aside from the usual emotional and fact free posts, it's pretty clear that most people understand the benefits, cost efficiency, safety and overall need of pipelines for our country.
It has been clearly shown that Canadian oil is technically no different from the South American tar sands oil we currently import. It will also be less expensive and mutually beneficial to both Canada and the US.
|
teafortwo

Champion Author
Washington
Posts:22,375 Points:1,412,000 Joined:Feb 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 3, 2012 4:35:51 PM
These BIG GREED corporations are only interested in one thing. Obscene profits.
AND they do not care who they have to step on.
Excellent comment from NHLiveFree ... and bears repeating:
Now that is a company with real 'heart' and suddenly so considerate of Texas wet lands even!
TransCanada is more likely "tweaking" a few more Congressman to pave the way for the grand scheme and pipeline all the way to China. There is still nothing guaranteed for the USA from this acidic Alberta crude.
|
tomok

Champion Author
Portland
Posts:33,579 Points:2,372,235 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 3, 2012 5:40:01 AM
With the huge number of pipelines crossing the US, one more will not matter that much. Tie into existing pipelines whenever possible to reduce material, transportation and labor costs. Avoid sensitive, geological, natural or scenic areas AND surface and ground water aquifer regions. Barry will have his say so, either good or bad. TransCanada has used 'imminent domain' to acquire private property illegally for the pipeline. Private Property is Private Property, it should Not be taken under force or strong persuasion! Big Oil continues to sell fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices, there will be NO price reduction for the cost of fuel or natural gas IN the US. 'Coming out of the closet' Barry will support natural gas and oil production for sale on the world market to pay for his ‘spending gone wild’ addiction and receive the huge federal tax income for oil. Barry's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! Speculators, manipulators and the banks continue to unfairly and unjustly make the driving public pay higher prices at the pump for their benefit. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
|
miser709

Champion Author
Grand Rapids
Posts:1,268 Points:1,093,950 Joined:Mar 2004
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:22:33 PM
This is the least of their problems. How are they going to push that THICK crude through the pipeline inexpensively?
Try building your own refinery. It will not lower the fuel cost in the US if it is sold to the World market. Just added air pollution
|
uptherefiners

Champion Author
Chicago
Posts:5,048 Points:1,002,000 Joined:Jun 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:16:43 PM
won't matter. obozo's dead set against it. has too many flunky campaign contributors going bankrupt
|
armey

Champion Author
Oregon
Posts:1,296 Points:310,555 Joined:Aug 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:16:10 PM
OK!
|
C.Carpets

All-Star Author
Oakland
Posts:573 Points:2,114,310 Joined:Feb 2005
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:14:36 PM
Let's make the President of Canada OUR President! Hey if we're gonna have a foreign president I rather have one from Canada than Kenya!
|
raj_fl

Champion Author
Trenton
Posts:3,319 Points:753,610 Joined:Oct 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:10:50 PM
mmmmm
|
raj_fl

Champion Author
Trenton
Posts:3,319 Points:753,610 Joined:Oct 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:10:22 PM
mmmmm
|
raj_fl

Champion Author
Trenton
Posts:3,319 Points:753,610 Joined:Oct 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:09:50 PM
the epa is protecting the corn farms so it can provide ethanol for a dying industry
|
judgemobile

Champion Author
Ohio
Posts:7,700 Points:2,471,660 Joined:Nov 2005
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:09:26 PM
GET THE DARN GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY, and the market will decide what works and what does not.
|
raj_fl

Champion Author
Trenton
Posts:3,319 Points:753,610 Joined:Oct 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:08:29 PM
this will mean lower gas prices for us that makes sense
|
N5EXY

Champion Author
Austin
Posts:5,632 Points:1,536,990 Joined:Jul 2004
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:07:06 PM
There are not many wetlands in Texas. That is why we try to drink Canada dry.
|
SteelPenny

Champion Author
Dallas
Posts:31,291 Points:2,633,690 Joined:Sep 2005
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:06:47 PM
Vote Zero'BOY out in November.
|
jem069

Champion Author
Detroit
Posts:2,679 Points:714,780 Joined:Jan 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:05:30 PM
ok
|
TheSicilian

Champion Author
Jacksonville
Posts:5,514 Points:1,496,475 Joined:Feb 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:02:42 PM
obummer will stop it if we dont stop him
|
mstearno

Champion Author
Dayton
Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:01:21 PM
ood
|
jessek

Champion Author
Detroit
Posts:2,657 Points:1,280,490 Joined:Sep 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:56:07 PM
Whatever it takes.
|
DustyHorse

Champion Author
Virginia
Posts:6,222 Points:1,417,740 Joined:Oct 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:52:54 PM
It seems TransCanada is pretty confident. I think they are out of luck until we have a new president.
|
Dodge_Me

Champion Author
Atlanta
Posts:2,214 Points:575,730 Joined:Mar 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:52:09 PM
Agree with "NHLiveFree"
|
Dsin44

Champion Author
Abbotsford
Posts:1,275 Points:276,195 Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:48:54 PM
hope not... it is all crap. Sending oil to the gulf..
|
SparkieMi

Champion Author
Kalamazoo
Posts:3,397 Points:615,110 Joined:Sep 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:47:12 PM
Good post by nehemiah.....
|
crewsing

Veteran Author
Virginia
Posts:391 Points:85,030 Joined:Feb 2012
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:40:22 PM
Not good
|
NHLiveFree

Champion Author
New Hampshire
Posts:11,294 Points:1,649,905 Joined:Jun 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:39:12 PM
Now that is a company with real 'heart' and suddenly so considerate of Texas wet lands even!
TransCanada is more likely "tweaking" a few more Congressman to pave the way for the grand scheme and pipeline all the way to China. There is still nothing guaranteed for the USA from this acidic Alberta crude.
|
bonzoonfmb

Champion Author
Florida
Posts:1,817 Points:664,160 Joined:Feb 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:36:59 PM
Do you really want Canada running a pipeline through anywhere in the U.S. just to sell the supply to developing economies like China and India?
The issue is not where the oil will go to get to the coast but where it will go after that. It will go to the highest bidder. It won't go to the U.S. It will not lower the U.S. domestic price of gas.
|
nehemiah

Champion Author
Portland
Posts:4,891 Points:957,115 Joined:Jul 2007
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:35:26 PM
we need more alternatives
|
soncorn

Veteran Author
Missouri
Posts:286 Points:1,317,870 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:34:21 PM
I wonder if they have made enough donations to the Obama campaign to get government approval. Chicago politics, pay to play!
|
Ray_10589

Champion Author
New York
Posts:5,081 Points:1,210,460 Joined:May 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:32:34 PM
build it
|
ACTown

Champion Author
Oregon
Posts:2,353 Points:1,450,925 Joined:Jun 2007
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:27:39 PM
good thinking, now what are they going to do to stop it?
|
Soglaos

Champion Author
Virginia Beach
Posts:2,851 Points:764,655 Joined:Feb 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:24:30 PM
ok
|
eswi

Champion Author
Madison
Posts:2,681 Points:710,105 Joined:Mar 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:24:02 PM
OK
|
milespergallon

Champion Author
Illinois
Posts:9,885 Points:1,936,060 Joined:Feb 2007
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:22:59 PM
Translation: gonna cost more
|
abcdMA

Champion Author
Worcester
Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:21:31 PM
Build Keystone
|
serrog

Champion Author
Nova Scotia
Posts:5,705 Points:1,539,830 Joined:Oct 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:19:06 PM
Smart
|
bikerchicklette

Champion Author
Washington
Posts:5,889 Points:1,300,620 Joined:Sep 2005
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:16:30 PM
really ?
|
1Casey

Champion Author
Albany
Posts:6,631 Points:1,810,945 Joined:Jun 2004
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:15:29 PM
Good ?
|
PoohMcGoo

Champion Author
Alabama
Posts:3,122 Points:822,360 Joined:Dec 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:15:14 PM
I'm sure they'll recoup any expenses.
|
mgune9

All-Star Author
Dallas
Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:13:17 PM
how much money will be wasted on the "tweaks"??
|
jad1960

Champion Author
Gary
Posts:1,575 Points:423,030 Joined:Feb 2012
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:07:23 PM
Quit talking and do something
|
goalie1950

Champion Author
Phoenix
Posts:6,545 Points:1,323,145 Joined:Oct 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:58:43 PM
Just get on with this Keystone project and built the damn thing already.
|
darkknight1

Champion Author
Winston-Salem
Posts:4,475 Points:922,785 Joined:Nov 2010
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:57:59 PM
ok
|
TBRR

Champion Author
Jacksonville
Posts:3,716 Points:605,975 Joined:Dec 2007
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:57:51 PM
let the greenies and the epa go back to horse and buggy days. the epa needs to go away.
|
Goofoff

Champion Author
Virginia
Posts:11,882 Points:2,177,200 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:54:26 PM
I read this article too man
|
Crumbfel

Champion Author
Virginia
Posts:11,554 Points:2,160,585 Joined:Aug 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:50:39 PM
I read this article
|
DrLyon

Champion Author
Michigan
Posts:6,764 Points:1,238,390 Joined:May 2006
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:48:55 PM
If you can't build further north and closer to the source, build it safely....
|
BBHybrid

Champion Author
Pittsburgh
Posts:6,479 Points:1,297,075 Joined:Aug 2008
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:48:42 PM
horrible project planning
|
MJIOWA

Champion Author
Iowa
Posts:4,959 Points:1,104,670 Joined:Nov 2009
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:48:01 PM
BUILD IT NOW
|
SpankyMI

Champion Author
Kalamazoo
Posts:2,831 Points:784,615 Joined:Jan 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:47:19 PM
A tweak here a tweak there, just get it done.
|
carman11

Champion Author
North Carolina
Posts:3,480 Points:719,425 Joined:Jun 2011
|
Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 9:44:06 PM
YES WE MUST PROTECT THE WET LAND. NO MATTER WHAT IT COST. WHAT OTHER COUNTRY CARES. WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO PLANET EARTH WHEN THERE IS NO AMERICA TO PROTECT THE WORLD????
|