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The Whole Fracking Debate Is Based On Bad Science

Business Insider -- In the debate over natural gas drilling, the companies are often the ones accused of twisting the facts. But scientists say opponents sometimes mislead the public, too.

Critics of fracking often raise alarms about groundwater pollution, air pollution, and cancer risks, and there are still many uncertainties. But some of the claims have little — or nothing— to back them.

For example, reports that breast cancer rates rose in a region with heavy gas drilling are false, researchers told The Associated Press.

And Susan G. Komen for the Cure, a major cancer advocacy group based in Dallas, said it sees no evidence of a spike, either.

"We don't," said Chandini Portteus, Komen's vice president of research, adding that they sympathize with people's fears and concerns, but "what we do know is a l

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 6:53:09 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse in today's world, you can buy a researcher who will put their name on a piece of paper and certify whatever you want if you have enough money to pay the person.
RONALD777 Champion Author Houston Posts:2,442 Points:364,705 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 7:31:00 PM Ignore RONALD777 Report Abuse I figured the fracking debate was phoney baloney.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 5:05:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I don't always agree w/ tomok, but agree w/ this up to "...surface."
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,008 Points:599,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 12:24:27 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,206,355 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:31:38 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Like tomok said,...."Limit Fracking and Bad Science, protect the surface and ground waters, people and animals at all times! Fracking water and sand contains pollutants released from underground rock and brought to the surface: Lead, Methane, various gasses and chemicals and whatever else that maybe contained in the underground rock or sand deposits. Do Not dispose of waste fracking water into the underground structure but treat the waste fracking water for careful and safe release on the surface." Totally agree!
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,447 Points:2,230,860 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 4:18:40 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Politics is often based on bad science.
Jarol Champion Author Iowa Posts:8,429 Points:1,594,115 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 7:48:02 AM Ignore Jarol Report Abuse The truth is often lost in politics.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,044 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 4:17:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Limit Fracking and Bad Science, protect the surface and ground waters, people and animals at all times! Fracking water and sand contains pollutants released from underground rock and brought to the surface: Lead, Methane, various gasses and chemicals and whatever else that maybe contained in the underground rock or sand deposits. Do Not dispose of waste fracking water into the underground structure but treat the waste fracking water for careful and safe release on the surface. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,864 Points:1,357,725 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 12:49:22 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse This and global warming are all based on alarmist misapplying incomplete or insufficient data to accomplish or obtain political or financial gain. What is amazing is how they fraudulently modify the data to accomplish their goal and our worthless news medias do nothing to expose them.
justmedc Veteran Author Michigan Posts:382 Points:174,045 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 12:19:26 AM Ignore justmedc Report Abuse good for you today, bad for you tommorrow,good for you today, bad for you tommorrow,good for you today, bad for you tommorrow,good for you today, bad for you tommorrow
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,857 Points:1,613,225 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:33:09 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse This whole article is tainted by a bad headline. Neither the spurious claims against fracking nor the unwarranted rosy scenarios are based on science, good or bad. These are irrational or emotional arguments that distort the actual scientific data. Sadly, not enough research has been done to prove either side of the issue. We should not be in such a fracking hurry and give the science time to catch up.
Jeff1944 Champion Author South Dakota Posts:4,236 Points:1,074,760 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:32:44 PM Ignore Jeff1944 Report Abuse A new myth like greenies cause cancer should have a scientific study conducted about it.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:556,980 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:13:33 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Hmm, some details made up maybe, still don't see how fracking could cause earthquakes, man has figured out how to move the whole tatonic plate? I don't think so
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,908 Points:1,545,285 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:10:20 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse As with many debates, there are two sides, and the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
METEOR49 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,177 Points:455,750 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:09:29 PM Ignore METEOR49 Report Abuse i take what either side has to say with a grain of salt.
Wierbe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,757 Points:1,120,090 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:07:58 PM Ignore Wierbe Report Abuse Bad Science or just real good spin of the facts?
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:8,914 Points:1,734,560 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:07:00 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Time will tell the truth.
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,955 Points:832,705 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:06:07 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse No fracking.
ssect8 Champion Author Hartford Posts:7,999 Points:2,094,495 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:05:45 PM Ignore ssect8 Report Abuse Don't believe anything you read from the greenies.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,543 Points:688,055 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:05:26 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse Ok
BWJM Champion Author KW Posts:1,113 Points:303,780 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:05:11 PM Ignore BWJM Report Abuse ok
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,542 Points:1,859,345 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:05:07 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse really
gknee09 All-Star Author Philadelphia Posts:985 Points:823,765 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:04:29 PM Ignore gknee09 Report Abuse time will tell
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,473 Points:663,925 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:03:53 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse The greenies will always use distortion and lies.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,697 Points:539,020 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:03:52 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Old news!! This site has too many cookies!!
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:15,546 Points:2,454,915 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:02:59 PM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse Here is the deal. Fracking works which is bad news for the green agenda types.
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,901 Points:773,245 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:02:45 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse crooked
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,206,355 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:01:24 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I think I was as naive as Brewingbiker from Tampa in about 5th grade. I learned quickly in Jr. High that the more I read a variety of views, the more I came to understand the world, the US and how both worked. Of course, I didn't have Faux News to give only one side of the equation!
dougerstew Veteran Author Oregon Posts:394 Points:1,109,480 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:57:47 PM Ignore dougerstew Report Abuse pathetic
CocoPaz Champion Author Santa Barbara Posts:2,380 Points:324,370 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:52:49 PM Ignore CocoPaz Report Abuse "And Susan G. Komen for the Cure, a major cancer advocacy group based in Dallas, said it sees no evidence of a spike, either." Now THAT is interesting.
Kaiyne Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,344 Points:473,690 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:50:18 PM Ignore Kaiyne Report Abuse NO FRACKING!
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,576 Points:1,616,870 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:50:09 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse More fracking debates!
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,666 Points:769,415 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:49:37 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse K
nickatnite Veteran Author Indianapolis Posts:370 Points:279,465 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:42:17 PM Ignore nickatnite Report Abuse My opinion on fracking is still unformed.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,787 Points:645,560 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:41:19 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse There are lies on both sides of the issue.
Hambone61 Champion Author Oregon Posts:14,474 Points:2,509,200 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:39:05 PM Ignore Hambone61 Report Abuse The Real problem here is that someone might put a few good folks to work, and maybe a profit could be made..... all 'illegal' under king barry.
nobodyMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,251 Points:554,305 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:38:23 PM Ignore nobodyMO Report Abuse time will tell, I don't think it will be good
EmperorsFinest Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,564 Points:340,870 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:35:28 PM Ignore EmperorsFinest Report Abuse fracking should be outlawed
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,079 Points:1,449,300 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:31:40 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Yeah? Tell that to those whose well water has been contaminated and now is undrinkable.
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,713 Points:760,255 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:31:05 PM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse The opponents always misled.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,212 Points:873,340 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:30:04 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Of course this is bad science. The "green" industry is notorious for their ability to make up facts.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,047 Points:1,514,125 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:29:38 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse There may be some truth to it an there may not! My self I don't know.
Gas Thirsty Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,877 Points:3,228,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:29:19 PM Ignore Gas Thirsty Report Abuse Fracking is a problem.
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,480 Points:812,460 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:27:38 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse need a true neutral abriter
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,559 Points:1,173,100 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:25:18 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Clarmont, to modify your comment here are a few changes: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ The Fossil Fuel Freaks are destroying our economy and way of life. That is their goal. Back to the dark ages. Let the Fossil Fuel Freaks walk. Let them freeze. Let them go broke. Let them go first. Red is Green. ??????????????????? Really, what does name calling accomplish?
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:24:47 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse There is no question that it can cause pollution of the groundwater as it happened in our area on several properties. You could no longer drink the water from your well and many got very sick from it.
BikerGirl02 Rookie Author Pittsburgh Posts:62 Points:185,765 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:23:52 PM Ignore BikerGirl02 Report Abuse The cancer risks may be debatable, but the water risks are not. They don't even test the water for the chemicals that are injected to do the fracking, but they test it for other things. How does that happen???
BeulahME Champion Author Maine Posts:1,107 Points:444,485 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:22:37 PM Ignore BeulahME Report Abuse Both sides can be wrong.
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:5,569 Points:1,513,105 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:11:41 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse Depends on whose viewpoint you read. Needs much study. the consequences of a bad decision are irreversable
ljmh Champion Author Akron Posts:3,047 Points:551,060 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 10:06:38 PM Ignore ljmh Report Abuse ok